PODCAST EPISODE № 11

Candid Conversations with Phenomenal Executive Women: Dr. Tracy Timberlake

by Anita Charlot

Listen to Candid Conversations with Phenomenal Executive Women: Dr. Tracy Timberlake:

Hey, they’re beautiful. You are in for a treat. This is a candid and casual conversation with my friend and business coach, Dr. Tracy Timberlake, lovingly known as Dr. TT.

We’re having a good time. You know, Dr. TT talks fast, I’m talking fast, feel free to slow it down or to speed it up if you want to. But we’re having a great time talking about the reality of, you know, finding your happy, right, whatever that means for you.

The journey through going to school and working for someone else, and recognizing your talents, and being bold enough and brave enough to step out there and do it on your own, start your own business, follow your heart, follow your mind, whatever it is, that makes you happy. This is what we’re talking about, and Dr. TT, and I go into several personal stories to help you see how we did it so that when you’re ready, you can do it too. We also talk about the challenge that Dr. TT had with allowing herself to open up and be ready to receive love as a truly busy woman and a woman on purpose. Sometimes we think that the problem is outside of us when in reality it is us who is standing in our way. So have a great time with this episode.

But enough about that. Let’s go ahead and get started inside of the episode.

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What You Learn:

How Dr. Tracy Timberlake created her business while still working full time
Advice to advance your business and watch it thrive
Why it’s important to just go for it, even when you’re scared you’re not ready
Dr. Tracy’s advice for finding your happy!

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Episode Transcript

Anita Charlot 
Okay, welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the happy executive woman podcast. This is my first time interviewing someone for the podcast as a guest. So, I decided that I was going to have my bestie. My business coach, Dr. Tracy Timberlake. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake
Yay! Thank you so much for having me. I’m so honored to be the first, you know, interviewed podcast episode.
 
Anita Charlot 
I am so excited to be here. So, for those of you that may or may not know, if you follow me on social media, then you know that I’m always sharing things that Dr. TT is – we lovingly call her Dr. TT – and I’m always sharing because Dr. TT basically changed my life, right? I’ve been an entrepreneur or dual-printer for over 20 years, and I was always doing everything, you know, haphazardly. Doing this here, grabbing this there, following this new shiny software to this side and that side. I was introduced to Dr. TT’s PLATFORM program, which was a mind-blowing experience. It put me on the path. It got me together. It helped me to organize not only my thoughts, but my business, and I’ve been using what I’ve learned now it’s been three years. It’s been three years. Yeah, I’m still using what I learned from Dr. TT, three years ago. So, Dr. TT, what I want to share with the listeners today is where it all started, like you didn’t start out as a business owner. What was your journey, and how did you embark upon it? How did you get to where, where you were then to where you are now? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Right? So my journey began, as most journeys begin, which is, you know if you grew up in the same type of era, you get an education, you get a job, and then you stick with the job. You know, because that’s what our parents knew, and that’s what society told us. And so that’s what I did, and I, you know, went to school, and then got another degree and then I worked at a university for… Well, after college, I kind of bopped around a little bit. So, I did corporate, and I was like, this is not for me, like, corporate, like high rise corporate, right? And I was like, well, that’s not really for me. And then I did nonprofit work because I was like, well, maybe that’s, that’s the thing that feeds my soul. And I love the work that I did there, but I still wasn’t it.  
 
And then I moved into higher education. So, I worked in higher ed for almost 10 years. But in that timeframe, you know, I just kind of settled on, I know that there’s something else for me, I don’t know what it is, but I’m gonna you know, I’m going to work my window, and I’m going to be here and I’m going to be present. And so, while I was working, along that time, YouTube kind of popped into my experience. This is back in 2010. Right. So, where YouTube was kind of relatively new. And there were a lot of people who were making these YouTube videos just about like their lives, or this is my dog, this is my bedroom, here’s how I decorate, you know, um, no one was making money. Everyone was just doing it for fun. And people would ask me questions all the time, about my hair, about my skincare, about my makeup, like, all those things. And I was like, well, you know what, let me just make a YouTube video on this because then people stop asking me and I’d write them off. And so, I made my first YouTube video, it was bad. I mean, it’s not wasn’t good, like, at all. But that’s okay. Because, you know, we all start somewhere. And I did the best I could with what I had, which was like a little, you know, point and shoot camera. I didn’t have a tripod didn’t know any of that. I just was like, I’m gonna set it up on like a stack of books, and I’m just gonna start talking to this camera. I made my first video and then you know, I was like, oh, that’s not bad. And people started engaging with it. And I made another video and then another video and then another, and it became like something that I was just doing regularly. So now we’re looking at 2011 2012 is when I’m really kind of got into it, and that’s when my channel became monetized, right? So I got a whole bunch of subscribers, tons of video views at that time, and YouTube’s like, Hey, you know, let’s monetize your channel! At that time, you had to be selective, everyone wasn’t monetized. So I was like, Oh, this is great. I didn’t know that I could make money. Granted, no one was like rolling in the dough making YouTube, but it was something, right? A couple of 100 a month, just for me talking about things I liked. I was like, This is great. 
 
Anita Charlot 
Right? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
That sort of became kind of another job because then the influencer world happened, right? So people started contacting you, brands started contacting me, Hey, can you make a video on this? Hey, we’ll pay you. So I started to make better money on YouTube, but I still had my nine to five job working at the university. So I was working like essentially two 40-hour workweeks, dual-preneuring it as a personal brand. And then also, as you know, what I was doing at the university, and it was 2015 at this time, and I was like, Okay, this is exhausting. Like, Something’s got to give because I was working at the university. I wasn’t making enough money with YouTube stuff and grant stuff to like, replace my income because I’m exhausted. And I remember, I remember that day. And then it was very soon after that, that I discovered the online coaching world. And I was like, Oh, I feel like I’ve been doing this already. Like, I feel like I was, like, people were asking me questions. People were, you know, wanting me to consult on their personal resumes. I’m doing this already. I didn’t know I could get paid for it. But that’s great. And then so that was the fall of 2015. And then 2016 is when I started my coaching business, and in May of 2016, is when I turned in my resignation at the university. 
 
Anita Charlot 
Wow. Yeah. I love the story. Right. I love this story. I know, you talked about your YouTube videos, and how you prop the camera up on the books. And I mean, I think that’s, that’s great because people often think that you have to start, like with this big thing, right? You have to start having the greatest camera equipment and the greatest tripod, and you have to spend thousands of dollars on all these classes. You just started with your, you know, point and click camera on a stack of books. And so the best thing that you know, we talked about even as coaches like just do it, just get started. Just do it. You got to start somewhere.
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
You grow as you go. If on day one, you are as perfect as perfect can be, then where do you go after that? Yeah, right. So you have to start where you are. Right? Definitely start where you are.
 
Anita Charlot
And then as you can tweak things along the way, right? Even if you don’t know what you want to do. Some people say, Well, I really don’t know what I want to do. Well, what is it that you like? What is it that interests you, right? And then yeah, just get started, you can always change your mind. You have the option to change your mind, especially if you’re a dual-preneur and you’re still in you know, the work environment. Right? So you still have that as an income base. Right? You still have that. So you said that you walked away? What was the decision? Or what was the catalyst? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Yeah. And I had no intention, I was getting my doctorate at the time the university was paying for it. So I really had no intention of like rushing myself out of the door, because I’m like, it’s free tuition. Right. So like, I had no intention of leaving, like, there are some people who were like, I’m trying to get out of my 9 to 5 as quickly as possible. And I mean, I was, but I was like, I still have, you know, that was 2016. So I was like, I still have like a year and a half at least of school that I would love for them to pay for, you know. But what started to happen, and this happens as you expand is, you know, there are the people around, you start to just get very strange. I had had a YouTube channel, this is towards 2016. Everyone in the building knew that I had a YouTube channel and I’d had the YouTube channel for at least five years. They knew it, they were okay with it. It was fine because I wasn’t talking about anything that had to do with, you know, the legal education system, which is I worked in a law school. And then so when I started to like, really, you know, build my business doing webinars, I don’t think that I’ve actually shared this story publicly. So you get to hear it first!
 
Anita Charlot  08:36 
Exclusive, yes! 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake  08:37 
Right? Exclusive, right. So when I started to do webinars and stuff like that, and you know. My boss at the time was, you know, she was a Facebook friend. So she was seeing all the things that I was doing, but she had seen everything, but like my YouTube channel, because I started my YouTube channel when I was working. So she’s seen everything. But then there was an incident where I received an email. I remember was a Sunday, I was at a meeting at my pastor’s house, and I received an email that I think I’m pretty sure was not for me, but ended up to me, like that was, you know, and it was, it was because it was about me, like, Oh, do you see what Tracy is doing? And all these webinars that she’s doing? And, and I was like, What? Because, in my mind, it was like what I’m doing because I was teaching YouTube at the time. I was teaching how to make YouTube videos, which has nothing to do with what I did in law school. I was like, you have a whole marketing department, like, you know, because essentially that the email was like, you know, she would never do that for us, even though she can. I’m like because that is not my job. Again – whole marketing department right down the hall. My job is not to make your YouTube videos. So I went in that was Sunday. So I went in Monday, and I, you know, when you go in, you see, like, all these recall emails. And I was like, like, I’m not playing this game. And because I have no problem, you know, bringing things to the table. I’m not passive-aggressive. I called my boss. She was working remotely at the time, so I called her. And I was like, Yes, I got this email. And it was a very interesting story because it was like she didn’t know what to say like, yeah, like, I feel like she should have just been like, Hey, listen, I’m very embarrassed that I sent that, you know, obviously, I’m feeling some kind of like, just admit it, but she just, she, first of all, she told me that it was a diary entry. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Okay. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake
But the email started with, Do you see what Trace is doing? And why would you send a diary entry in an email, and a work email that like, it was like a personal email? Yeah. I know. So I’m like, Okay, this is not a diary entry. Let me just start with that. I’m not an idiot, um, however, and she was like, Well, you know, you’re just really good at what you do. And I just feel like you’re gonna leave. And I was like, Well, you didn’t think I was gonna stay here, did you? So that was like, the first thing. That was maybe February of 2016. Right? So it was like my first webinar. Then, like, just a series of events after that, where I just was like, okay, like, everything that I did, like, was being watched. And I remember having this conversation, like, I’m not playing this game with you people. Like, I’m not doing this, like, I don’t know, what kind of issues you’re having. But this sounds like a very personal problem. And I’m just not playing like, I’m not playing. And then one Saturday, I went into my office. I’d asked for one of my like, for one of the directors to give me a call, and he didn’t. And so I was like, Okay, well, I’m going to go. And I went to my office, and I packed up everything. And then on that Monday, I was like, Yeah, I packed up all my stuff. And so this is… I’m not doing this. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Yeah. Wow. Wow. So you left, um, cuz I know, some people would say, oh, my goodness, you know, how could she leave and she’s still ahead. You hadn’t completed your doctorate. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
And I was like, Listen, I, at that point, when I left, I had launched my first program and made $1,000 launch my second program at that time and made like, $22,000. And I was like, Okay, I can do that. I’ll just pay my own doggone tuition. It’s not worth it. Like it wasn’t worth the stress involved. And I knew that if I had more time to dedicate to my business, I would make more money anyway.
 
Anita Charlot  
Yeah, I love this story. And that’s when you shared your story. I believe you shared your story during the challenge that I took before I signed up for what I like to call the Ph.D. Online Business Development Program, right. That’s not what it’s called. But that’s what it was like, for me, because I had taken a ton of, you know, business development courses, and I worked with coaches before, but I never got the level of commitment. I never got the professionalism. And what I really enjoyed about it was that it was set up like it was actually a class, right? Meaning we had a syllabus, and we knew what we were going to cover and we had like Christmas break, and we had things to do over Christmas break. It was very well thought out very well put together. And it was very compact. Like we crunched a lot in those six months. You weren’t like okay, well, if you’ve never done this before, you know, just read the read and watch the video over again. You were like, Okay, listen, there are some of you in here who have taken have done this before, and then there are others that haven’t. This is your first time. You didn’t leave anybody behind?

Dr. Tracy Timberlake  
Well, I didn’t want to so thank you so much for saying that.

Anita Charlot  
You’re welcome. I mean, it was definitely something for me, having already been in business for over 15 years, 16 years at the time. It was like, wow, this is what I was missing. Like you don’t really get this level of exposure to so many different things and to the actual coach of the class. Right? Other people are like, you know, read the I had one person that I know had gone through a coaching program with someone and she reached out and asked a question, and the coach pointed her back to the PowerPoint. She said it’s in the PowerPoint, right. And that’s kind of what people are used to, but it wasn’t like that with you. And so I was like, wow, this is amazing. This is exactly what I needed. And that was three years ago. And ever since then I’ve been using like we have lifetime access to the course. I continuously go in – I forget my password, so I have to read the password, every now and then. But I’ve continued to go in and I remember these things and if I have a question I reach out so I think one of the things that I love about your story is that you started out as a dual-preneur, and I brand myself as a dual-preneur, right? You know, I got one foot incorporate and I got one foot in the business as well as you know, I think I may have five other feet in five other different things. But, you know, that’s neither here nor there. I’m used to juggling a lot. But what you give women is we can see you, we can talk to you. When you’re working with us on PLATFORM when you work with us, we knew you weren’t just talking about what you did and what you know, what you’ve done, we could talk to people who went and who were in your previous classes. You know, we had guest speakers that came in, and you were available. And I said this before, but I love the study halls.
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake  
Yeah, everybody does! It’s nice to have conversations that are just, you know, it’s not always about business. Sometimes we’re talking about Laura’s love lives, or sometimes we’re talking about, you know, food, the reading, it doesn’t matter. But study halls are always really fun. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Yeah, I love study halls, and even if you didn’t have – like study halls were there for those that needed it. So it wasn’t like you had to come. Right. But if, if you showed up and you didn’t have a question, you still learned a lot by listening to other people who had questions, right? And it wasn’t, you know, oh, well, that’s great. Okay, read this book, click this link, do this or that. You’re like, no, let’s share your screen. Show me. So we were able to learn, you know, at the same time, so that was, that was awesome. So for the other dual-preneurs out there, or people, women who may not even be in the workforce right now, like we have a lot of women at this stage of the game who are becoming empty nesters. And some of those women have been stay-at-home moms, and now they’re looking to do something. Not to mention the fact that because of the pandemic, we’ve all taken a closer look at ourselves, you know, am I doing what I really want to do? Am I really happy? Is this fulfilling? And so for those women that are in that space of questioning where they are, what they should be doing, the fact that you found your happy, what advice would you give to those women in terms of how they can find their happy? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
You know, I would say, because… Yeah, because of the pandemic, and because of people just really being for me, not just the pandemic, but I think everything in 2020, from elections to dust bowls and wildfires to racial tension, I think it really forced us to look in the mirror and say, like, you know, there, there are parts of my life that are not fulfilling to me. If you are in that space, I say like go back to the drawing board. What I found to be true is that we really do know what we want. We really do know, what we what makes our soul sing, we just have learned to suppress it in favor of what society has told us is the version of success that we should be experiencing is the kind of life that we should be living, right. But if you go back to yourself, right, you, you take a moment to just ask yourself, What do I want? What do I desire, it’s in there, you just have to give yourself enough time and space to find it again and then to admit to yourself that it’s what you want. It’s going to be scary. It’s going to be uncomfortable, because especially you know, I talked about identity a lot. If you are so used to being one way and you’ve identified yourself – let’s say you’re so used to being an employee, which I say you’re so used to being an employee trying to become an entrepreneur is very uncomfortable, because you’re just not used to that. That’s not your paradigm. You don’t have the identity of an entrepreneur, you’ve always lived one way and now you’re gonna do something else, right? If you’ve always been a mom talking about empty nesters. You’ve always been a mom, you’ve always taken care of someone. And then all of a sudden everyone like you’re an empty nester because your kids are now grown right? It’s like, Who am I now? For the last several decades, I’ve just been a mom. And now all my kids are gone. Who am I? Right? Right? It’s the same principle of like, you, you have to define yourself according to what you want to define yourself and not according to what you’ve been or the roles that you’ve played. So if you’re looking to find your happy, I definitely say go back to the drawing board. Just ask yourself, journal through it, and then when you’re journaling, if it scares you, that’s probably the thing you should do, but like start to dive deeper. Like, why is this so scary to me? Why am I so apprehensive about this? And really uncovering all of those things. But it takes time. 
 
Anita Charlot 
Right? It takes time and it takes work, right? You have to do the work. So it’s not gonna come to you right away. And the first thing that you choose may not be the thing that you stick with, but you got to start somewhere. Right? You have so many different things that you’re involved in and you’re and you’re such a dynamic person. I just love you to death. One of the things that I really love about you is that you have a way of incorporating your faith into your business. Tell us a little bit more about, did you always do that? And if not, what gave you the courage to incorporate your faith into your business? And talk a little about your money mindset program? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Yes. So with regards to, you know, faith and like, putting my faith in my business, because I am so connected to what I do, right, I don’t consider it work, I just consider it me doing living my life. And me living my life looks like doing this, that I can’t really separate who I am. And that’s such a big part of who I am, right? When I’m telling stories, I have to tell them from that vantage point. When I’m teaching people and helping them to kind of move into another space, I have to do it from that vantage point. Now, 90 plus percent of my clientele come from a faith-based background. But yeah, there are some people who are not faith-based, right? And so I just feel like when I’m authentic to myself, and I’m doing it, like if they come into my programs where they want to work with me, and they’re not faith-based, it’s fine, because they already know what they’re gonna get. It’s not right, like I pretend I’m all, you know, not whatever, and then all of a sudden, it’s like, bam, I’m gonna hit you with the Bible. Right. And at the same time, like, I don’t force people to believe in the Bible, either. This is how I teach, and I also use not just the Bible, but I think that God created everything. So I use universal on principle, and, and we talked about things like the law of attraction, and really what the biblical principles are of the law of attraction or law of correspondence or law of cause and effect, right. And then with money, how that came about was, in the work that I’ve been doing, even before I became a coach, I was doing personal development work already. And the money conversation is a conversation that I had had multiple times in many different spaces in private, and I was having lunch with clients, and I was having them, you know, with friends, and understanding the biblical principles behind it, but also the energetic principles, like the quantum physics of money, the science of money, and going these actually work very well together. I don’t know why we have learned such a fear-based ideology around currency and around money. And so I started teaching that, because I wanted people to recognize, you know, like the truth with a capital T about money versus, you know, lowercase t truths of what we have heard growing up, what our parents taught us, what our teachers taught us, what we might have learned in the church, especially because there’s a lot of misinformation being passed around, based off of fear. And I wanted people to not have a fear-based experience for themselves, but also as they pass it down to their children so that maybe future generations wouldn’t be stuck in the same places that we were stuck when were coming up.
 
Anita Charlot 
Mm-hmm. And so your money mindset program? You created that in order to help others. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake  
Yes. It’s something that people had asked me for so long, like, when are you going to do money class? Do you have money class, you have a Bible study on money? What do you have around this? And I was like, I have nothing. And part of it was because you don’t like… because you’ve been in PLATFORM, right? Like it even in challenges that I’ve done, it’s very methodical, right? Like when I teach PLATFORM, it’s something that builds on each other. It’s very methodical. It’s like step one, step two, whereas with money, it’s like step one, but like step 1.5, but then you got to go back to like step zero, and then… So it was always like, jumbled up that I could never figure out what the best way to deliver the content was. Right? So in doing that, I was like, Okay, well, the best way to deliver that, then is really just going to be to do it. And with me talking about in the same way that what people love the most, like in client sessions, when I’m talking about money, and the way that I talk about money, it kind of just rolls off the tongue. I don’t have any notes. I’m not like, go. And so I was like, well, maybe that’s the class like I just sit and I just talk about money. No workbook, which is very rare for me. You know, I love a workbook. Yeah. No workbook. No, like, just free-flowing and talking. I mean, still methodical, because I have to teach a certain way, but just really free-flowing through the conversation of money so that people could have a different understanding. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Yeah. Yeah, it was. I took it the first time you did it. And it was great. I still have the notes. So you know, I refer to them all the time. Speaking of money, I have been a part of the Flourish Media Conference. And I’ve also had an opportunity to be a guest blogger for Behind the Leaf. So share a little bit more with our listeners about your idea of community over competition and how that plays out with the Flourish Media Conference. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake
Yeah, so I’ve always had that growth happens in collaboration. If you want to go somewhere fast, you can go alone. If you want to go far, you go with people, right. And so collaboration is always a part of what I do, it’s always going to be kind of in the ethos of my core values. And so Flourish Media is that. The Flourish Media Conference, what we do is we created this space for women to come and then pitch their businesses for seed funding, or angel investing, or, you know, up to $15 million. We’ve reached back in our portfolios of connections that we’ve made, and have a wonderful amount of support in that area of men, women, all kinds of people who are like, Yes, I would love to make an investment. And then so people come they pitch. And then they have conversations with our investors. So it’s not a pitch competition, it’s a pitch conversation. And that was a big deal is like, we didn’t want to just have one person win, or we didn’t want people to feel like they were competing, we wanted people to feel like they were a part of something, a part of the economy, a part of growth, and that anybody could access this money if it made sense for the investors. Community and collaboration are one of the things that Flourish stands for, and that’s why we do the conference the way that we do that so that it doesn’t feel like you’re having to compete for a seat at the table because we just feel like everybody should have a seat at the table. Everybody should get the chance everybody should have the opportunity.

Anita Charlot  
Right? And so the first time that you did this conference, what was the dollar amount that you had raised to or you had people commit to too,

Dr. Tracy Timberlake
So it’s always been 15 million. Year after year, it’s always been up to 15 million. Thankfully, we have really great partners who are willing to contribute that. We’ve had people pitch for 3 million, we’ve had people pitch for 800,000, we’ve had people pitch for 50,000, you know, and 80% of the people that pitch end up getting some sort of funding, whether they get what they asked for some other type of funding. We’ve had people who have pitched who have then gone on to Shark Tank, and I’ve had really great deals there because they got to practice their pitch in front of real investors. Those investors gave them you know, information and insight to be able to make it more attractive to investors. So yeah, like Cradle Essence, they pitched it at the Flourish conference in 2018. I think 2018. And then they were on Shark Tank Later that year and got a really sweet deal with Kevin O’Leary, you know, using some of the tools that they learned at the conference. So we’re always very excited about that. We have another person who was at the conference this year in pitch, and she was just recently featured on Jada Pinkett’s Red Table Talk. So that was really fun for us to see. So, we get to see like, you know, like the fruits of our labor that’s just out there. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Right. That’s amazing. I remember going to the conference in 2019, going to Flourish Media Conference, and I will be there in 2022. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Yeah, we’re really excited. We’re already starting planning it now.
 
Anita Charlot  
It’s definitely an amazing event, you know, it’s whether you’re going as someone who is actually pitching or someone who is sitting in the audience is great to be there. Like to see how things work. I thought it was really again, once again, it’s that personal touch, right? You can have you know, investors… I don’t know, if after Shark Tank, the show, they sit down, the sharks sit down and write and give feedback, you know, like nice constructive feedback other than being in your face, right. But that’s what I saw, I saw that they were really invested in. They wanted to help. They wanted to invest in women in businesses, and that was awesome. I had the opportunity to participate in judging Mommy and Me Shark Tank, I had so much fun. But afterward, we were able to give constructive, you know, feedback. And that was for me, that was amazing. So it was almost like, I saw how it works from being really supportive. I saw how that works at Flourish, and so then I was able to give that information or give that type of connection or commitment and response and support to the young ladies and their moms. So it was a lot of fun. You have so many things going on. We talked about PLATFORM, we talked about Flourish. We talked about the money mindset. We have talked about quite a few things, but what I want to know right now because I don’t want to keep you too long. I want to know what is it that you have. Tell our listeners, what you have coming up how they can connect with you. And I mean, you’ve done a TED talk, I could I know your whole…
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
I mean, what do I have going on right now. Well, I’m launching PLATFORM right now. So that opens up once a year, as you know, so that’s happening at this point, or it’ll happen soon. At the end of this week. I don’t know when this will go out. But okay, August… end of August is when I open up registration for about 10 days. 
 
Anita Charlot  
I’ll put the link on the show notes page.
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
In November, I have a big event happening here where Flourish Media is actually producing it. So a client of ours just really wants to have this really large event, and Flourish Media gets to produce it. We recently had one on a yacht, it was a mastermind and I talked about money mindset on the boat. And you know, we have politicians and professional athletes and Rick Ross was there and it was great. And then now we’re doing a much larger event in Miami in November, where I will be co-hosting with Marlon Wayans, so that should be pretty fun and funny because he’s hilarious. Daymond John will be there, so he’s speaking. Elena Cardone. So there’s gonna be a lot of speakers. I can’t say all the names yet because everybody isn’t like 100% signed, but like, I know Daymond John for sure. I know Marlon Wayans for sure. Ryan Chu, Elena Cardone, and then me. So we’ll be doing that, and that it’s really primarily about cryptocurrency but just money and wealth in general. And, you know, Rodney, who is the mastermind of the event, he really wants this to be for women, you know, who have just been, you know, kind of like off to the side and have been marginalized and are looking to build wealth in a new way. So, it’s about cryptocurrency. So that’s happening in November, I have some really fun things coming up. I have an Amazon Prime documentary docu-series that they’re coming to film. I can’t say too much about that yet, but that’s happening for Amazon Prime. So yeah, just lots of fun projects. And you can just follow me on Instagram to hear all about it.  
 
Anita Charlot 
Great. So on Instagram, are you Tracy Timberlake?

Dr. Tracy Timberlake
Yeah, Tracy Timberlake on Instagram.

Anita Charlot 
Great. This has been amazing. I love it. I love talking to you. Like we could talk all day, and I can throw your business out there about everything you got going on and everything I know. But this is really great. Thank you so much for being a part of my podcast, thank you so much for being a part of my, my business growth. 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Believe me, I am humbled every day that I get to do this work. And it’s always fun for me to see when people take it and run with it like you have. And you’ve really built a really cool brand that helps women. It really supports them in an area of life where they don’t often feel supportive, which is relationships and, and really finding something that’s true for themselves. So I love the work that you’re doing, and I’m just so proud of you. 
 
Anita Charlot
Thank you. And one last question, because I completely forgot I get so wrapped up in our conversation. So you know, part of the brand is being an executive relationship coach for women, and so what would you say if someone asks you, how is it as a woman that, you know, has been successful, what is it like, in the dating world for you? 
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Yeah, so I have done a lot of work in this particular area over the last year, for sure. Maybe a little over a year, I really, like started to look at this. And ultimately, it boils down to, what everything boils down to, which is what you believe it to be, right? If you believe that dating is difficult, and it’s hard, and you’re not going to find a person because no one’s going to be able to relate to you. If that’s what you believe in for a long time, that’s what I believe is like, I don’t know how this is gonna work because I don’t know how people are going to perceive me, right? Am I gonna have to change myself right order to be you know, liked and loved by a man? Am I gonna have to do that? Right? And I didn’t want to. That was a sacrifice that I was just unwilling to make. I thought that that’s what I was going to have to do to find love here in this world that I just didn’t date because I was like, I’m never changing myself. I am who I am. I like myself.  
So much personal development work to get to where I am. I’m not changing it. Yeah, I like myself as I am. And so, when I started to make that shift, it was actually pretty instantaneous, honestly, like when I made the shift, and I was like, you know what, no, that is not what I’m going to choose to believe. But I can shift things pretty quickly now in my life, right? Because I’ve been doing this work for some time. So, once I kind of made the shift. I mean, it was like the floodgates of men opened up. I was like, where are all of these men coming from? I mean, literally – and we haven’t actually had this conversation yet. But like, literally, I was like, where are they coming from? But I’m talking like previous NFL players, yeah, like PhDs, like all kinds of entrepreneurs, like all the other like, they’re all here. It started to become a game at some point. Like my friends… I’d be like, okay, guys, let’s welcome so and so to… you know, like, where are they going? Yeah, I wasn’t overwhelmed, like, oh my god, but I was like, this is interesting because in my mind for so long, I thought, this is never gonna happen. But I remember I shifted it right? It was like, here they all are in all their glory. Now, what I recognized in doing this is that I am not a person who like, I had to get really honest with myself about how I desired to do this is gonna be this sorry, this is gonna be long, you can cut any of this out, but like, you know, like, I realized that I was going to have to come up with my interesting, like everything else in life, I had to come up with my own terms and conditions for how I want to experience a man, you know, a loving relationship. And I realized, like, I’m not the kind of person who wants to date a lot. There are people who just they like, there are people who teach this and that’s fine for if it works for you. Like they had a whole bunch of people at one time. I’m like, I just, I don’t want my energy to be split. I am not a person that that like, attaches themselves to, so I get it if you are an attached personality that, like you, then you may be dating several people is for you, because you don’t want to be too attached to one, right. I’m also really intuitive with myself, you know what I mean? Like, it’s like I am recognizing this was so critical for me. I have never been wrong about men that I’ve dated ever. Now I might have pretended to not know the truth, but ultimately, when I really think about it, I like my heart knew very early on whether it was a person… Well, obviously none of those people worked out in the past. Like and my heart knew it, I might have just latched on longer, because you know, for whatever fear, but I recognize that like, I really know myself and I really know whether or not I feel a connection with a person. And so, I just felt like I didn’t need to do all this dating around and doing all kinds of things. So, you know, we’re gonna stick with one person. One person is what we’re gonna do, we’re gonna enjoy the journey of that. And again, because I feel like I really know myself, I can make that decision now. Whereas in the past, I probably wouldn’t have. 
 
Anita Charlot  
Yeah, and that’s the whole thing, right? That’s, that’s the whole thing, getting to know yourself. And, you know, I tell my clients all the time, we go through, you know, different exercises to help them drill down to what it is they want. But you have to do that, you have to get clear on what love looks like for you what a relationship looks like for you. What you are willing, and are not willing to let go of, or change or shift or alter or whatever in order for you to have, you know that the quality of life and love that you want, and that’s the most important thing. Especially as a woman who is on a mission, a woman who is busy, a successful woman, you have to know, you have to be able to attract what I call the man that is perfectly imperfect for you. Right? He doesn’t, he may not work for somebody else. But he if he fits into what your vision of your life looks like, and he doesn’t require you to change who you are in order to be with him. And you can be yourself. Then why not? But you got to get to that point first.
 
Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
So important, right and recognizing, you know, like, because I talk about desire so much. And you know this, like I talked about desire and like the things that we desire. Like me desiring to be in a loving, committed relationship and married one day like that is a true and real desire, just in the same way that like building a successful business was a true desire. And I believe in the power of desire, and I believe that desires come from God, and I believe all that stuff. So, I’m like, okay, like, if this is the desire that I have, and it’s not something that I can shake, then it must be for me. So, I need to get to a place where I’m showing up the right way. And I’m doing the work and I’m making sure that I’m, you know, knowing myself and being real with myself and being honest with myself about what it is I want and not compromising on that because I truly think that you know, like, who God has for you is who God has for you. And you know, once you get to that place, you’ll be committed enough to make it work. 
 
Anita Charlot 
Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much, Dr. TT. This was amazing.

Dr. Tracy Timberlake 
Thank you for having me.

Anita Charlot 
You are welcome. So, I will put all of your links in the show notes. So, everyone that is listening, you want to head on over to the show notes. You want to check out Dr. TT’s links or Tracy Timberlake as you guys know her, but she’s Dr. TT to me. And feel free to if you can’t find something, figure something out. You need to know where to find Dr. TT if you can’t just reach out to me and I’ll be happy to make that connection for you. Until next time.